ssreenu
04-14 12:59 PM
The aim of this appeal is not to compare or compete with EB1, PhDs, US MS degree holders or discuss other exotic bills!
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
I modified your post a little bit and I sent an email to white house, I am not sure how far it will go but I would encourage everyone to send an email to whitehouse, they might look into at least one of the emails if not all:
Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact)
There are several thousand employment based greecard applicants who have continued to live in the USA for several years (many have crossed even 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long greencard line for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future. It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for 8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes to the US government, just because they do not have a Greencard. For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained our greencards in 3 / 4 years. The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 applicants who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules?
Is following immigration rules, going through the complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars! Please consider to clear the long waiting backlogs of the greencard process.
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
I modified your post a little bit and I sent an email to white house, I am not sure how far it will go but I would encourage everyone to send an email to whitehouse, they might look into at least one of the emails if not all:
Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact)
There are several thousand employment based greecard applicants who have continued to live in the USA for several years (many have crossed even 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long greencard line for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future. It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for 8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes to the US government, just because they do not have a Greencard. For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained our greencards in 3 / 4 years. The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 applicants who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules?
Is following immigration rules, going through the complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars! Please consider to clear the long waiting backlogs of the greencard process.
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the_jaguar
12-18 10:00 PM
Sent my 2nd or 3rd (don't really remember..) contribution. 50 bucks this time around...
insbaby
11-12 07:48 PM
Mr.Thunderbolt,
Congratulations!! You did a very good job and becoming an example.
Please educate every one you meet in your community, friends circle and help others who do not know the laws and risking their kids life.
The thread has been filled up with mixed responses of some threatening, supporting, uncontrollable anger and attacking, don't bother much, as it is a way for ourselves get educated, because most of us here have kids same age as yours.
Great work!!!
Congratulations!! You did a very good job and becoming an example.
Please educate every one you meet in your community, friends circle and help others who do not know the laws and risking their kids life.
The thread has been filled up with mixed responses of some threatening, supporting, uncontrollable anger and attacking, don't bother much, as it is a way for ourselves get educated, because most of us here have kids same age as yours.
Great work!!!
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Thombi
07-17 09:49 PM
I'd like to add my thanks for a great job. A month ago I wasn't really aware of IV, but now I know you are a force to be reckoned with! I am already a USC, but the debacle impacted family members. We are from a country in "the rest of the world", but we also benefited from your efforts.
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qasleuth
02-25 12:30 PM
Can we get the Stubborn IV Core moving :mad:?
Now you deserve a sanju response :) go for it man !
Now you deserve a sanju response :) go for it man !
gcny2006
08-12 01:14 AM
please refer the dates before posting such useless information. very ashamed to see some donors do this kind of mistake. unnecessarily misguiding the people. for a moment i lost hope. if this time, the uscis (after all the preadjudication numbers and all) makes this kind of stupid mistake then the USCIS should be ashamed of its existence and DHS should shove its head in some uselss thing.
You are right I did pick up an old post. Here is the link that discusses the 2009 dates. Ron Gotcher's assessment remains the same.
Visa bulletin september 2009 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8752-visa-bulletin-september-2009-a.html)
I am not trying to scare you, far from it I am trying to make sense of conflicting reports we keep getting from uscis and visa bulletin. AS ron gotcher says the oct bulletin will complete the picture.
However, I am afraid that we will see dates retrogress again in oct. why? because I don't see a lot of people getting their I 485 approved. There are several eb2 I cases here and in that are current and haven't been approved . You would see a lot of celebration on this site if people were getting approved .
We have see this movie before. It happens every year - VO trying to get uscis to move and use the visa numbers and uscis being its old lazy ineffecient self.
I am sorry I don't mean to be a wet blanket.
You are right I did pick up an old post. Here is the link that discusses the 2009 dates. Ron Gotcher's assessment remains the same.
Visa bulletin september 2009 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8752-visa-bulletin-september-2009-a.html)
I am not trying to scare you, far from it I am trying to make sense of conflicting reports we keep getting from uscis and visa bulletin. AS ron gotcher says the oct bulletin will complete the picture.
However, I am afraid that we will see dates retrogress again in oct. why? because I don't see a lot of people getting their I 485 approved. There are several eb2 I cases here and in that are current and haven't been approved . You would see a lot of celebration on this site if people were getting approved .
We have see this movie before. It happens every year - VO trying to get uscis to move and use the visa numbers and uscis being its old lazy ineffecient self.
I am sorry I don't mean to be a wet blanket.
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arbhaat
11-11 02:43 PM
Thunderbolt,
I believe you can safely go to the cops and report this abuse. As someone has said above, immigration and civil matters are handled separately. You can (and probably) should get an advice from a lawyer about any implications to your GC journey here, just so that you are prepared for it. But letting this person go unchecked is not something you can afford.
Many corporations do not have enough resources to find out whether or not they are hiring legal employees. Even the republican candidates for presidency discussed this on stage in their debates that a person cannot check legal employability of everyone they hire. Many of us hire and pay incash for yard work, house maids etc. without checking if they are allowed to work in US. It's mainly the employee's responsibility to make sure they are allowed to legally work in US. That's why EVerify is voluntary and not a compulsion yet.
I believe you can safely go to the cops and report this abuse. As someone has said above, immigration and civil matters are handled separately. You can (and probably) should get an advice from a lawyer about any implications to your GC journey here, just so that you are prepared for it. But letting this person go unchecked is not something you can afford.
Many corporations do not have enough resources to find out whether or not they are hiring legal employees. Even the republican candidates for presidency discussed this on stage in their debates that a person cannot check legal employability of everyone they hire. Many of us hire and pay incash for yard work, house maids etc. without checking if they are allowed to work in US. It's mainly the employee's responsibility to make sure they are allowed to legally work in US. That's why EVerify is voluntary and not a compulsion yet.
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hebbar77
08-12 05:49 PM
Keep Us posted on Sept, 1st 2009
I am happy finally my case is current effective sept 1st. Lets see what happens in SEPT!
I am happy finally my case is current effective sept 1st. Lets see what happens in SEPT!
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a1b2c3
12-04 10:05 PM
This is happening due to bad US immigration policies which of course largely reflects the conflict between american working class/employees and the business owners/employers.
Neither do the senators pass tough bills which can block out illegal immigrants not do they give the existing ones amnesty.
The illegals are stuck in some sort of limbo and it creates some human rights violations such as this one.
With legals, they issue green cards but not in sufficient numbers to satisfy the overall demand because of a popular american notion that jobs are going away to foreign workers.
I think if these lawmakers had done a good job of anticipating demand properly and regulating immigration, it would have been less chaotic.
Neither do the senators pass tough bills which can block out illegal immigrants not do they give the existing ones amnesty.
The illegals are stuck in some sort of limbo and it creates some human rights violations such as this one.
With legals, they issue green cards but not in sufficient numbers to satisfy the overall demand because of a popular american notion that jobs are going away to foreign workers.
I think if these lawmakers had done a good job of anticipating demand properly and regulating immigration, it would have been less chaotic.
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dtekkedil
07-04 07:01 PM
Can someone with a paypal account come forward and take over a fund? Anyone with a paypal account can donate any amount using a nickname and we can publish the nickname along with the amount donated on this thread. That way we have accountability and also have a better idea of how many flowers we can send. That person with the paypal account can then order the flowers on Saturday by the latest.
Others, if they want, can send the flowers on their own also.
Just a suggestion... If we can do this, I believe more people will come forward!
Anyone who has donated to IV should be able to do this...
Others, if they want, can send the flowers on their own also.
Just a suggestion... If we can do this, I believe more people will come forward!
Anyone who has donated to IV should be able to do this...
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ItIsNotFunny
03-06 03:01 PM
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sprash
08-11 03:18 PM
Ooh so close ...
(my PD is 27 JAN 05)
(my PD is 27 JAN 05)
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sam2006
08-14 01:03 PM
yes
i also think that almost all the 140 approved at TSC and 485 applied at NSC got an LUD 07-28
and are moved to TSC
eb3_nepa and others any comments guys
thanks
i also think that almost all the 140 approved at TSC and 485 applied at NSC got an LUD 07-28
and are moved to TSC
eb3_nepa and others any comments guys
thanks
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Madhuri
12-20 10:17 AM
As of today Dec 20, 11:10 AM we have reached 43.97% of our target
I guess you mean Dec 20.
I guess you mean Dec 20.
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alisa
02-02 08:45 PM
Can someone please explain in more detail how visa numbers are divided up.
For example, if you have 140K visas, how many go to
EB1
EB2 ROW, EB2 India, EB2 China, EB2 phillipines
EB3 ROW, EB3 Indian, EB3 China, EB3 Phillipines.
What happens with EB1 has unused visas? How do they flow?
What happens with EB2 has unused visas? Where do they go?
An illustrative example would be great.
Visas are divided equally -country wise quota - no country can have more than 7% of worldwide quota. Countries like India, China, Mexico, Phillipines that have more professionals in the USA. So these countries get retrogressed. EB(Employment based) greencard applicants from these countries have to wait.
Rest of the world (ROW) EB2 (ROW) do not have to wait, their dates are current.
For example, if you have 140K visas, how many go to
EB1
EB2 ROW, EB2 India, EB2 China, EB2 phillipines
EB3 ROW, EB3 Indian, EB3 China, EB3 Phillipines.
What happens with EB1 has unused visas? How do they flow?
What happens with EB2 has unused visas? Where do they go?
An illustrative example would be great.
Visas are divided equally -country wise quota - no country can have more than 7% of worldwide quota. Countries like India, China, Mexico, Phillipines that have more professionals in the USA. So these countries get retrogressed. EB(Employment based) greencard applicants from these countries have to wait.
Rest of the world (ROW) EB2 (ROW) do not have to wait, their dates are current.
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santb1975
12-03 02:58 PM
None of us want to be hear that none of the provisions that favor us are in the bill. Please come forward
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bigboy007
04-12 11:25 AM
Great discussions!! we are all going in different directions... How many Labor petitions few handful? There might be ppl who are stuck legitimately and ppl who did it , it was legal. Rather we should concentrate on Retrogression of VISA numbers. Then what after July 07 , think also about 140's there were pending there are a handful with earlier priority dates. Also many times USCIS issued GC's for ppl with earlier PD's should they return their GC back ? And potato eater has mentioned its not point to argument. I dont think there are those who are blocking the system. It is sheer number of VISA's that are driving nuts. There were also proposals that VISA numbers be applied only to principal applicants. Actions like these will have impact on final numbers.
And above all this idea is not new , It was even discussed by many members (in ~2006) when Substitution was abolished. But we are already here. We will campaign like Rajiv Khanna had said and then what discuss new proposal ? I feel its not that easy to do a change for existing ones in pipeline and USCIS has completely abolished this idea altogether.
Main action agenda: Legislation to get back unused numbers. I dont want IV to waste energy or resources anything beyond this and we shouldnt keep on discussions of new proposals. Our only point of discussion should be How to get legislative fix done.
Come to think of it, this idea has potential to fly. We can ask CIS to make the date of I-140 filing as the PD for substituted labor case. This will ensure that PD will move forward smoothly till July 07 at least. That will cover most of the long standing ( and long suffering) GC applicants and bring them relief. This will not have any other impact on the number of outstanding apps or available visa numbers etc. I guess this change in PD assignment logic can be done by CIS without the need of any new legislation.
The idea inherently appeals to those who believe in fair play. How do we take this forward.
And above all this idea is not new , It was even discussed by many members (in ~2006) when Substitution was abolished. But we are already here. We will campaign like Rajiv Khanna had said and then what discuss new proposal ? I feel its not that easy to do a change for existing ones in pipeline and USCIS has completely abolished this idea altogether.
Main action agenda: Legislation to get back unused numbers. I dont want IV to waste energy or resources anything beyond this and we shouldnt keep on discussions of new proposals. Our only point of discussion should be How to get legislative fix done.
Come to think of it, this idea has potential to fly. We can ask CIS to make the date of I-140 filing as the PD for substituted labor case. This will ensure that PD will move forward smoothly till July 07 at least. That will cover most of the long standing ( and long suffering) GC applicants and bring them relief. This will not have any other impact on the number of outstanding apps or available visa numbers etc. I guess this change in PD assignment logic can be done by CIS without the need of any new legislation.
The idea inherently appeals to those who believe in fair play. How do we take this forward.
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gc_on_demand
08-11 05:09 PM
as usual after seeing these date like everybody else I also started thinking when will be my turn?
I did some digging in DHS data and here is the list with number of PERM Approvals, these are for India only and includes EB2 + EB3:
PD Year PD Month Count
2005 Mar 1
2005 Apr 24
2005 May 133
2005 Jun 535
2005 July 794
2005 Aug 1313
2005 Sep 1316
2005 Oct 1212
2005 Nov 1541
2005 Dec 1771
2006 Jan 1788
2006 Feb 1729
2006 Mar 2224
2006 Apr 1635
2006 May 1876
2006 Jun 1902
2006 July 1574
2006 Aug 1317
2006 Sep 963
Can you post a link from where you got this data . Is it DOS or DOL ?
I did some digging in DHS data and here is the list with number of PERM Approvals, these are for India only and includes EB2 + EB3:
PD Year PD Month Count
2005 Mar 1
2005 Apr 24
2005 May 133
2005 Jun 535
2005 July 794
2005 Aug 1313
2005 Sep 1316
2005 Oct 1212
2005 Nov 1541
2005 Dec 1771
2006 Jan 1788
2006 Feb 1729
2006 Mar 2224
2006 Apr 1635
2006 May 1876
2006 Jun 1902
2006 July 1574
2006 Aug 1317
2006 Sep 963
Can you post a link from where you got this data . Is it DOS or DOL ?
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newbie2020
02-25 12:02 PM
The idea needs to be taken to the next step, How about a conference call....I can provide a Bridge for the call
dtekkedil
07-05 04:26 PM
See page 2; Pappus comment on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6104&page=2
It may serve us well to be united under one umbrella - that is IV.
Err... that was about "no work day"... Our agenda is to support one of IVs agendas.. attract media attention. So even if IV does not endorse the method... we are still supporting what IV is attempting to do!
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6104&page=2
It may serve us well to be united under one umbrella - that is IV.
Err... that was about "no work day"... Our agenda is to support one of IVs agendas.. attract media attention. So even if IV does not endorse the method... we are still supporting what IV is attempting to do!
sam2006
08-14 12:53 PM
eb3_nepa think you are right
our cases are beeing trans to TSC
LUD 07-28
140 approved TSC
485 NSC 3rd july signed by R.Willimas
NO CC
NO Receipt
our cases are beeing trans to TSC
LUD 07-28
140 approved TSC
485 NSC 3rd july signed by R.Willimas
NO CC
NO Receipt
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