deba
06-13 07:33 PM
shishya and spdy_mn, the point here is when did you get married. As long as your marriage date is before the approval date you are fine. In fact, I remember reading in murthy's website that even if you find out that your 485 has been approved right after you got married (all petitions will have an approval date), you are still eligible to file for your spouse's 485. I think INS has a 180 day window to consider the spouse's application. I guess you have to prove that you got married before the approval date of your 485. Search the murthy website about this posting from her. Good luck.
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mbartosik
12-13 11:59 PM
How about we start donating services for the IV. I am ready to donate my time and use my energies to generate money for the IV. Ideas can be
1. Shampoo your car ($20)
2 Wash your car ($25)
3 Donate personal DVD's to be rented out to fellow Desis ($2)
4 Dinner and a Movie organized by state chapters. ($100)
5 Collect Cans to recycle
6 More Ideas
Hey, dude, I hope that this was a joke :D
Because I doubt that anyone willing to wash my car for a few bucks is highly skilled. Personally, I prefer, give 1 day of salary - that's way over $25, and far more effective (I get paid more than $25 for the time it takes to wash a car).
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Huum, I rather thing that it was not a joke. No offense intended.
The dinner and movie is the best idea.
Actually I think that the other ideas to be "less than optimal", thus I thought they were a joke.
1. Shampoo your car ($20)
2 Wash your car ($25)
3 Donate personal DVD's to be rented out to fellow Desis ($2)
4 Dinner and a Movie organized by state chapters. ($100)
5 Collect Cans to recycle
6 More Ideas
Hey, dude, I hope that this was a joke :D
Because I doubt that anyone willing to wash my car for a few bucks is highly skilled. Personally, I prefer, give 1 day of salary - that's way over $25, and far more effective (I get paid more than $25 for the time it takes to wash a car).
[edited]
Huum, I rather thing that it was not a joke. No offense intended.
The dinner and movie is the best idea.
Actually I think that the other ideas to be "less than optimal", thus I thought they were a joke.
aspiration
06-11 01:19 PM
Called all 6 rep's offices plus my local north carolina 4th district rep David Price.
Everyone note down the bill numbers and said that they will pass on the message.. Mary Bono's office asked to call local rep office, which i did before..
Some of them were very nice and asked the address and name and all, whereas some of them just got the bill numbers and were eager to hang up the phone..
....Apart from contributing during the funding drive.. this is my first action to call reps...Felt great and encourage everyone else to give it a try....Try calling just one of them and you will feel the urge to call all of them and do your part...
Everyone note down the bill numbers and said that they will pass on the message.. Mary Bono's office asked to call local rep office, which i did before..
Some of them were very nice and asked the address and name and all, whereas some of them just got the bill numbers and were eager to hang up the phone..
....Apart from contributing during the funding drive.. this is my first action to call reps...Felt great and encourage everyone else to give it a try....Try calling just one of them and you will feel the urge to call all of them and do your part...
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santb1975
12-02 01:08 PM
Events with food, music and lots of other fun and all the money goes to IV. We need to form workgroups for doing this in every state.
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pushkarw
12-21 12:09 PM
Have you contributed to the MILLION dollar drive? Please visit the funding thread!
gagbag
07-11 12:53 PM
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0710-lee.shtm
Is Money Behind USCIS Move To Have Department Of State Take Unprecedented Action To "Update" July Visa Chart?
by Alan Lee, Esq.
Was the Department of State's unprecedented action on July 2, 2007, issuing an "Update on July Visa Availability" closing off visa availability for the rest of the fiscal year for employment based cases and essentially gutting its July visa bulletin (which opened the employment based categories EB-1 through EB-3 for adjustment of status applications) all about the money with U.S.C.I.S. in the role of culprit? We believe the answer unfortunately is "yes" and reflects U.S.C.I.S.'s desperate desire to grab its huge future fee increase from individuals that it saw slipping through its fingers. U.S.C.I.S. undoubtedly perceived its expected windfall of hundreds of millions of dollars through its outlandish July 30th increase in fees for petitions and applications (average increase 66%) threatened by the July visa chart which would allow many employment based individuals and their families to beat the fee increases. A typical family of four (husband, wife, child aged 16 and the other 12) applying for adjustment of status currently pays $1,605 to U.S.C.I.S. (including I-140 charge). That same family on and after July 30th would pay $4,105, an increase of $2,500, or 255%. If one multiplies those figures by at least 100,000 ( $250 million difference),[1] one can imagine the explosive temper of top U.S.C.I.S. officials when they saw the Visa Office July chart. U.S.C.I.S. has made no bones that it is depending upon the fee increases to fund its proposed systems and structures for the 21st century.
The Visa Office made it clear through the updating of the visa bulletin that its update was only because of U.S.C.I.S. action using the phrases "The sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices during the past month....", and "As a result of this unexpected action....." The Visa Office cited these efforts as resulting in the use of almost 60,000 employment numbers. It is also clear that the Visa Office had no wish to defend U.S.C.I.S. when it issued its update on July 2nd. Whether it retains its stance in the future of washing its hands and pointing the finger at U.S.C.I.S. remains to be seen in light of probable Administration pressure to spin the story in a more positive light to the government as this Administration has exhibited a continual attitude of "soaking" immigrants, legal or otherwise ( $25,000+ for a family of four to immigrate under the recent fallen Senate bill ( See our article, "$10,000 Required For Earned Legalization and Adjustment Under the Secure Borders, Employment Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act", http://www.alanleelaw.com/english/articles/a2007-05-26.htm), which figure was modified from the earlier Administration proposal of $82,000+ ( See our article, "Mr. Lee's Comment to March 28, 2007 White House Immigration Reform Proposal - Z Visas", http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/digest/2007,0403.shtm in "LETTERS" section), the passed amendment to S. 1639 raising H-1B surcharge fees to $5,000 on top of the fraud ($500) and filing ($190) fees, and the rapacious July 30th U.S.C.I.S. fee increase). The author recalls his telephone conversation with Charlie Oppenheim, the chief of immigrant visa control and reporting, Visa Office, in December 2004 concerning the 101,000 "pool numbers", in which Mr. Oppenheim gave no credence to U.S.C.I.S. figures that the agency had cleared over 100,000 cases (including dependents) between April and November. (The exact differential was 115,000 cases, a rate of about 16,400 per month). The author has no knowledge of the exact number of cases that U.S.C.I.S. claimed to close in June for the State Department to announce that almost 60,000 employment numbers were used (employment based immigrant visa numbers are also requested by U.S. consulates and embassies), but notes that the vast majority of employment based cases are with aliens in the States who adjust status here rather than consular processing their cases. If U.S.C.I.S. claimed to clear anywhere in the area of 40,000-50,000 cases last month, that number for one month is difficult if not incredulous to believe, and if true would have involved massive shifts of U.S.C.I.S. personnel from other responsibilities to comb through and adjudicate all files of persons eligible to immigrate through employment, or less than careful consideration of the cases. Hopefully the agency was not in such a desperate state as to cut corners to endanger our national security if it was the latter case.
The facts and the legality of U.S.C.I.S.'s actions will undoubtedly be the subject of multiple lawsuits. However this turns out, the agency and the Administration will wind up with less respect than before. This Administration needs all the good publicity that it can muster in light of its unpopular Iraq war and recent actions freeing Scooter Libby (not even Paris Hilton avoided imprisonment) and supporting Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and creating further public mistrust of the justice system even after confirmation that he and other White House aides politicized the selection of United States Attorneys. Unless U.S.C.I.S. and the Visa Office can change course, this episode will unfortunately become a black eye to all parties as further facts emerge in the coming days.
Is Money Behind USCIS Move To Have Department Of State Take Unprecedented Action To "Update" July Visa Chart?
by Alan Lee, Esq.
Was the Department of State's unprecedented action on July 2, 2007, issuing an "Update on July Visa Availability" closing off visa availability for the rest of the fiscal year for employment based cases and essentially gutting its July visa bulletin (which opened the employment based categories EB-1 through EB-3 for adjustment of status applications) all about the money with U.S.C.I.S. in the role of culprit? We believe the answer unfortunately is "yes" and reflects U.S.C.I.S.'s desperate desire to grab its huge future fee increase from individuals that it saw slipping through its fingers. U.S.C.I.S. undoubtedly perceived its expected windfall of hundreds of millions of dollars through its outlandish July 30th increase in fees for petitions and applications (average increase 66%) threatened by the July visa chart which would allow many employment based individuals and their families to beat the fee increases. A typical family of four (husband, wife, child aged 16 and the other 12) applying for adjustment of status currently pays $1,605 to U.S.C.I.S. (including I-140 charge). That same family on and after July 30th would pay $4,105, an increase of $2,500, or 255%. If one multiplies those figures by at least 100,000 ( $250 million difference),[1] one can imagine the explosive temper of top U.S.C.I.S. officials when they saw the Visa Office July chart. U.S.C.I.S. has made no bones that it is depending upon the fee increases to fund its proposed systems and structures for the 21st century.
The Visa Office made it clear through the updating of the visa bulletin that its update was only because of U.S.C.I.S. action using the phrases "The sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices during the past month....", and "As a result of this unexpected action....." The Visa Office cited these efforts as resulting in the use of almost 60,000 employment numbers. It is also clear that the Visa Office had no wish to defend U.S.C.I.S. when it issued its update on July 2nd. Whether it retains its stance in the future of washing its hands and pointing the finger at U.S.C.I.S. remains to be seen in light of probable Administration pressure to spin the story in a more positive light to the government as this Administration has exhibited a continual attitude of "soaking" immigrants, legal or otherwise ( $25,000+ for a family of four to immigrate under the recent fallen Senate bill ( See our article, "$10,000 Required For Earned Legalization and Adjustment Under the Secure Borders, Employment Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act", http://www.alanleelaw.com/english/articles/a2007-05-26.htm), which figure was modified from the earlier Administration proposal of $82,000+ ( See our article, "Mr. Lee's Comment to March 28, 2007 White House Immigration Reform Proposal - Z Visas", http://www.ilw.com/immigdaily/digest/2007,0403.shtm in "LETTERS" section), the passed amendment to S. 1639 raising H-1B surcharge fees to $5,000 on top of the fraud ($500) and filing ($190) fees, and the rapacious July 30th U.S.C.I.S. fee increase). The author recalls his telephone conversation with Charlie Oppenheim, the chief of immigrant visa control and reporting, Visa Office, in December 2004 concerning the 101,000 "pool numbers", in which Mr. Oppenheim gave no credence to U.S.C.I.S. figures that the agency had cleared over 100,000 cases (including dependents) between April and November. (The exact differential was 115,000 cases, a rate of about 16,400 per month). The author has no knowledge of the exact number of cases that U.S.C.I.S. claimed to close in June for the State Department to announce that almost 60,000 employment numbers were used (employment based immigrant visa numbers are also requested by U.S. consulates and embassies), but notes that the vast majority of employment based cases are with aliens in the States who adjust status here rather than consular processing their cases. If U.S.C.I.S. claimed to clear anywhere in the area of 40,000-50,000 cases last month, that number for one month is difficult if not incredulous to believe, and if true would have involved massive shifts of U.S.C.I.S. personnel from other responsibilities to comb through and adjudicate all files of persons eligible to immigrate through employment, or less than careful consideration of the cases. Hopefully the agency was not in such a desperate state as to cut corners to endanger our national security if it was the latter case.
The facts and the legality of U.S.C.I.S.'s actions will undoubtedly be the subject of multiple lawsuits. However this turns out, the agency and the Administration will wind up with less respect than before. This Administration needs all the good publicity that it can muster in light of its unpopular Iraq war and recent actions freeing Scooter Libby (not even Paris Hilton avoided imprisonment) and supporting Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and creating further public mistrust of the justice system even after confirmation that he and other White House aides politicized the selection of United States Attorneys. Unless U.S.C.I.S. and the Visa Office can change course, this episode will unfortunately become a black eye to all parties as further facts emerge in the coming days.
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malaGCPahije
03-13 12:04 PM
Good news and I am very happy for all Eb2...It seems like EB3 has not much hopes. It is moving at snail's pace, but with all the overflow from EB1 and ROWW going to EB2 only, looks like EB3 will take a long time to reach 2004/2005. If few of us in EB3 category get to see the GC before they leave the US, we should consider ourselves fortunate.
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go_gc_way
09-13 09:22 PM
We need more members to join IV. In order to help us, pls--
- post IV poster in your local grocery stores, temples and restaaurants. (the poster is in resources section)
- try to get friends from other nationalities to join IV.
- If you are a graduate of A US university pls contact your alumni association and inform all their members.
- Send an email to all your friends. (template in resources section) informing about IV
I will be doing these soon.
Pappu, your inbox is full and cant take any more messages .. I have a suggestion, there may be members willing to spend time to help at the same time they may not able to spend hours / Daily but hours / Weekly. They probably can be assigned meaningful tasks to help you.
- post IV poster in your local grocery stores, temples and restaaurants. (the poster is in resources section)
- try to get friends from other nationalities to join IV.
- If you are a graduate of A US university pls contact your alumni association and inform all their members.
- Send an email to all your friends. (template in resources section) informing about IV
I will be doing these soon.
Pappu, your inbox is full and cant take any more messages .. I have a suggestion, there may be members willing to spend time to help at the same time they may not able to spend hours / Daily but hours / Weekly. They probably can be assigned meaningful tasks to help you.
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minimalist
03-31 12:53 PM
We have to understand that there is a myriad of laws; INA, CFR's; USCIS policy binding memos; internal memos; appeals decisions, court cases, precedent aao decisions, precedent legal cases.
Now; the ac21 memo is a memo that uscis officers have to follow. However; the memo is not in accordanc with INA 245 or AC21.
INA 245 states that a valid and approved 140 is needed for a person to get lawful permanent residency.
ac21 says that a person can change jobs after 485 has been pending for more then 180 days.
The above two things are the law.
In ac21 law; it doesn't say anything about the scenario if 140 is revoked by employer. It is totally silent to it.
USCIS in their memos realized that ac21 law would not have any meaning if the employer still controlled the 140 if a person was eligible for ac21; therefore, they issued the memo (memo is not law but binding; memos can be changed; however, there has been nothing public about any possible change).
Memo is clarification which they have been following for many years and as far as I know still binding.
Kepp up the good work.
Now; the ac21 memo is a memo that uscis officers have to follow. However; the memo is not in accordanc with INA 245 or AC21.
INA 245 states that a valid and approved 140 is needed for a person to get lawful permanent residency.
ac21 says that a person can change jobs after 485 has been pending for more then 180 days.
The above two things are the law.
In ac21 law; it doesn't say anything about the scenario if 140 is revoked by employer. It is totally silent to it.
USCIS in their memos realized that ac21 law would not have any meaning if the employer still controlled the 140 if a person was eligible for ac21; therefore, they issued the memo (memo is not law but binding; memos can be changed; however, there has been nothing public about any possible change).
Memo is clarification which they have been following for many years and as far as I know still binding.
Kepp up the good work.
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eager_immi
02-14 07:58 AM
Since you don't have faith in IV and don't want to contribute...what are you doing here? When and If IV acheives result will you then remove money from your wallet? Also, ur goals other than getting ur green card does not match with IV's goal, so stop using "we" say "i".
No problem you can feel exactly how you want...i think the issues you and others have is beacuse u want to know what is happening with the funds. I agree on that point that we all come from india and having faith in any charity org is hard. But, you have to think beyond your myopic view. These people just like you have a full time job,they are equally frustrated with GC process and they have a lot to loose if they are caught in a criminal activities. So, tell me why would they throw away all that they have worked for to get a few thousand dollars from you all.People get shocked saying where did the 200K go? Please give me a break don't most H1B earn really high salary. If you are prudent and a good saver you can easily save that money in a few years time.
So now would you have enough faith to arrange a cultural event. I like your idea but would you step up. Or is that for IV to do to pass your cause ... getting your green card. Man you are some manupalative B.
Ok, if advertising is too far-fetched, then hold some cultural events and make money on those. Brainstorm with members to find other ways to make money. People are not going to contribute. That is the writing on the wall. There is lack of trust and lack of faith in IV. IV will have to figure out ways to generate cash from other things than member contributions. If I remember correctly, people contributed nearly $200K and have got nothing to show for that.
These suggestions are because you think money is the issue. I don't think it is. It's the lack of good leadership. That is my opinion and it was point of my original posting. Lack of money is being blamed wrongly. But may be I am wrong.
Attack my ideas and not me. Then we can have a debate conducive to achieving our goals.
No problem you can feel exactly how you want...i think the issues you and others have is beacuse u want to know what is happening with the funds. I agree on that point that we all come from india and having faith in any charity org is hard. But, you have to think beyond your myopic view. These people just like you have a full time job,they are equally frustrated with GC process and they have a lot to loose if they are caught in a criminal activities. So, tell me why would they throw away all that they have worked for to get a few thousand dollars from you all.People get shocked saying where did the 200K go? Please give me a break don't most H1B earn really high salary. If you are prudent and a good saver you can easily save that money in a few years time.
So now would you have enough faith to arrange a cultural event. I like your idea but would you step up. Or is that for IV to do to pass your cause ... getting your green card. Man you are some manupalative B.
Ok, if advertising is too far-fetched, then hold some cultural events and make money on those. Brainstorm with members to find other ways to make money. People are not going to contribute. That is the writing on the wall. There is lack of trust and lack of faith in IV. IV will have to figure out ways to generate cash from other things than member contributions. If I remember correctly, people contributed nearly $200K and have got nothing to show for that.
These suggestions are because you think money is the issue. I don't think it is. It's the lack of good leadership. That is my opinion and it was point of my original posting. Lack of money is being blamed wrongly. But may be I am wrong.
Attack my ideas and not me. Then we can have a debate conducive to achieving our goals.
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cdeneo
04-22 05:25 PM
Another question for the group related to porting from EB3 to EB2 -
I-485 for the EB-3 application was filed for both the primary applicant and the dependent spouse. Now the primary applicant and spouse are separated.
Once the new EB2 Perm application is filed and is followed by the premium I-140 petition that should get approved - and since no I-485 application is required this time around - would both the primary applicant and spouse get the GC based on the original I-485 pending application?
Since the primary applicant and spouse are now separated - how does one get the spouse's I-485 application cancelled since the spouse has moved out of the country.
Any insight would be very appreciated. Thanks!
If I-485 is already pending with old EB-3 india I-140, then no need to apply new I485.
IF I485 was not field for some reason due to delays in backlog processing or PERM audits, then one needs to apply for new I485 alongwith new approved I-140.
I-485 for the EB-3 application was filed for both the primary applicant and the dependent spouse. Now the primary applicant and spouse are separated.
Once the new EB2 Perm application is filed and is followed by the premium I-140 petition that should get approved - and since no I-485 application is required this time around - would both the primary applicant and spouse get the GC based on the original I-485 pending application?
Since the primary applicant and spouse are now separated - how does one get the spouse's I-485 application cancelled since the spouse has moved out of the country.
Any insight would be very appreciated. Thanks!
If I-485 is already pending with old EB-3 india I-140, then no need to apply new I485.
IF I485 was not field for some reason due to delays in backlog processing or PERM audits, then one needs to apply for new I485 alongwith new approved I-140.
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coopheal
07-30 07:06 AM
Thanks for this information. I took liberty of putting this on IV wiki.
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Commodity_Trading
Please update the wiki if you would like to add/update your original comments.
Dont even think about it unless you are a quant and have resources that can compete with the Hedge funds.
.....
You have better chance of hitting a jackpot in a casino than making money in trading commodities.
http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Commodity_Trading
Please update the wiki if you would like to add/update your original comments.
Dont even think about it unless you are a quant and have resources that can compete with the Hedge funds.
.....
You have better chance of hitting a jackpot in a casino than making money in trading commodities.
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fromnaija
10-15 02:12 PM
Again today there is an LUD (10/15/2007) on the below quoted H1B petition. What is going? The status remains approval notice sent, however.
This may not be related to this issues but I saw an update of 09/25/2007 on my H1 case with a previous employer whom I left in 2004. This case was approved in 2003.
This may not be related to this issues but I saw an update of 09/25/2007 on my H1 case with a previous employer whom I left in 2004. This case was approved in 2003.
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rheoretro
09-13 03:17 PM
We need to do something that catches the attention of the media; just getting more members and more funds may not be enough. We need to write letters to editors of major newspapers like NYTIMES and WASH POST.
I am so glad about the strong reponse to this thread.
I think you missed my point...we need more members because you can't get any one's time if you just want them to do something for you. You have to be prepared to do something for them. For us, when we become citizens, we need to vote. Now do you see why political parties look for numbers?
Also, as far as our outreach in the news media is concerned, you should look at this page:
http://www.immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=19&Itemid=27
We may not have made the news on CNN or on PBS, but we have gotten the word out across a wide spectrum of the news media...
RR
I am so glad about the strong reponse to this thread.
I think you missed my point...we need more members because you can't get any one's time if you just want them to do something for you. You have to be prepared to do something for them. For us, when we become citizens, we need to vote. Now do you see why political parties look for numbers?
Also, as far as our outreach in the news media is concerned, you should look at this page:
http://www.immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=19&Itemid=27
We may not have made the news on CNN or on PBS, but we have gotten the word out across a wide spectrum of the news media...
RR
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satyasaich
01-29 08:49 PM
What you said was absolutely correct. However most of the times the delays caused in big companies are due to various layers of communications as well as approvals.
I'm a live example of how i lost the opportunity to file 485 before Dec31/2004 for EB3 category, just because of unnecessary (so called) procedural delays
NOw, this new rule in place will certainly prompt for good changes in the big companies if they truly want to sponser GC
Yes, they must act in a timely manner. one way to do is HR should get all the necessary approvals from managers / directors so that they don't lose time. Secondly my observation is there is always a substanial delay at Attorney's office(few exceptions are there) to prepare the paperwork.
I dont think companies are really geared to file for 140 within 45 days of labor approval.
Most of the companies take 4-6 weeks to just send the documents the lawyers request for filing 140. Then the lawyers, most likely forget something and request more documents. It takes another 2 weeks for company to send those.
All in all, on average I think companies need 3 months after approved labor to be ready to Fedex that 140 petition. No malicious intent on the part of employer, its just how things are. 45 days is going to make things difficult for many companies and many of the lazy, slow, procrastinating law firms.
I'm a live example of how i lost the opportunity to file 485 before Dec31/2004 for EB3 category, just because of unnecessary (so called) procedural delays
NOw, this new rule in place will certainly prompt for good changes in the big companies if they truly want to sponser GC
Yes, they must act in a timely manner. one way to do is HR should get all the necessary approvals from managers / directors so that they don't lose time. Secondly my observation is there is always a substanial delay at Attorney's office(few exceptions are there) to prepare the paperwork.
I dont think companies are really geared to file for 140 within 45 days of labor approval.
Most of the companies take 4-6 weeks to just send the documents the lawyers request for filing 140. Then the lawyers, most likely forget something and request more documents. It takes another 2 weeks for company to send those.
All in all, on average I think companies need 3 months after approved labor to be ready to Fedex that 140 petition. No malicious intent on the part of employer, its just how things are. 45 days is going to make things difficult for many companies and many of the lazy, slow, procrastinating law firms.
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eb3India
03-08 11:03 AM
I second everything logic has said,
Also it is really funny and I use to think it's just me, but I am glad someone else is also experinced the same,
Myself, I was able to file I-485 and renewed EAD 3 times, which means my wife is working from past three years, I have changed job using AC-21 twice and my salary is increased and have better job, which means I am not too much worried about getting GC, but I still contribute to IV and call lawmakers many times.
The FEAR I see among many people is really pathatic, I know couple of friends does not even want to talk to me on phone about this matter thinking that some one might be listening,
Also it is really funny and I use to think it's just me, but I am glad someone else is also experinced the same,
Myself, I was able to file I-485 and renewed EAD 3 times, which means my wife is working from past three years, I have changed job using AC-21 twice and my salary is increased and have better job, which means I am not too much worried about getting GC, but I still contribute to IV and call lawmakers many times.
The FEAR I see among many people is really pathatic, I know couple of friends does not even want to talk to me on phone about this matter thinking that some one might be listening,
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kaisersose
11-02 03:19 PM
nope, if the alternative to the GC system is outsourcing (as you yourself mentioned) all the profits go to big corporations and our salaries are spent in India. The corporations are notorious for avoiding taxes so teh government gets nothing. By making us stay here longer (on H1 or GC) we end up spending our salaries here, paying taxes, paying social security, paying medicare.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
I did not say outsourcing is the only alternative. I said they will have their own people take these jobs or if not, they will ship out these jobs. Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
I did not say outsourcing is the only alternative. I said they will have their own people take these jobs or if not, they will ship out these jobs. Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
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srikondoji
06-08 09:45 AM
Well if we were to carry your reasoning a little bit further ...being a citizen of a country, any country, is only a privilege and not a right as you have to follow the rules and laws of the country.
The actual difference is in the definition as has been pointed out earlier.....
"right" - is something you can ask for because you think it is reasonably fair
"privilege" - is something you are not entitled to or deserve but nevertheless get because someone condescended to give it to you.
By the above definitions what would would classify getting permanent residence as.... the answer lies in the broader way of how we look at life and live it.
Do we always live in fear and cower in front of real and imagined threats - the GC is then a privilege.
Or do we live an honest life - do the best we can - and stand up for what we think is right or wrong irrespective of whether our lives are directly affected or not. The GC then is a right.
Getting a GC in United States is our dream. Following rules and following laws of the system is all what we can do. We can only highlight the defects in the system and ask for a change.
We live a honest life not out of fear of getting caught, but because we believe that that is the right thing to do.
If you are a citizen and stand up for what is right or wrong, then the concerned authorities should seriously look into it.
But if you are not a citizen and stand up for what is right or wrong, then you may be appreciated for that and receive a thank you note. The concerned authorities may or may not pay attention to your concerns. I may be wrong but this is what i feel about it at this time.
Convince me otherwise and i will change my thinking.
In the later case, if you approach authorities in a systematic and professional way and place your concerns like how our immigrationvoice is doing, chances are we will succeed in our efforts.
Thanks
sri
The actual difference is in the definition as has been pointed out earlier.....
"right" - is something you can ask for because you think it is reasonably fair
"privilege" - is something you are not entitled to or deserve but nevertheless get because someone condescended to give it to you.
By the above definitions what would would classify getting permanent residence as.... the answer lies in the broader way of how we look at life and live it.
Do we always live in fear and cower in front of real and imagined threats - the GC is then a privilege.
Or do we live an honest life - do the best we can - and stand up for what we think is right or wrong irrespective of whether our lives are directly affected or not. The GC then is a right.
Getting a GC in United States is our dream. Following rules and following laws of the system is all what we can do. We can only highlight the defects in the system and ask for a change.
We live a honest life not out of fear of getting caught, but because we believe that that is the right thing to do.
If you are a citizen and stand up for what is right or wrong, then the concerned authorities should seriously look into it.
But if you are not a citizen and stand up for what is right or wrong, then you may be appreciated for that and receive a thank you note. The concerned authorities may or may not pay attention to your concerns. I may be wrong but this is what i feel about it at this time.
Convince me otherwise and i will change my thinking.
In the later case, if you approach authorities in a systematic and professional way and place your concerns like how our immigrationvoice is doing, chances are we will succeed in our efforts.
Thanks
sri
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99mutd08
01-17 01:02 PM
Count me in for all the efforts and contributions.It's time we stand up for ourseleves.
sfcwtu
09-17 01:01 PM
sfcwtu: "when you say she did withdraw" what do you mean? did she withdraw 6020?
I am not sure now. Lofgren mentioned something about withdrawing her bill. But the vote for an amendment went on after. someone explain?
It's in recession now. The chair said he hope he could move things expeditiously when meeting resumes.
I am not sure now. Lofgren mentioned something about withdrawing her bill. But the vote for an amendment went on after. someone explain?
It's in recession now. The chair said he hope he could move things expeditiously when meeting resumes.
caliguy
09-15 11:02 PM
It seems like its just me and kubmilegaGC left from June 2004. Anybody else from June 04?
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